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Candy: Meljean has a really interesting entry on TSTL double standards. I’m trying hard to think of a TSTL hero, and I can’t. There are plenty of stupid heroes (the stupidity usually tending towards the “asinine assumptions about the purity and/or intentions of the heroine” variety), and plenty of stubborn heroes, but I can’t think of a hero who puts himself in physically dangerous situations in which he’s patently not able to handle himself and then needs the heroine to run in and save his stupid ass.
Sarah: Hmmm. I’ve seen heroes put themselves in stupid social situations out of a naive inability to predict society, but that’s a common male stereotype anyway, and really, any male in a truly rules-centered society (i.e. the South) knows the rules. Whether he chooses to obey them is another issue entirely. But I can think of a few books where the hero stupidly puts the heroine and himself in a socially untenable situation, leaving the heroine to scheme her way out of poor graces.
Candy: Yeah, but that’s not necessarily TSTL behavior, though, is it? I define TSTL behavior to be when a person rushes into danger, or steadfastly refuses to heed warning signs or take basic safety precautions in hazardous situations. An unarmed, gently-reared woman who INSISTS on going riding alone when there’ve been reports of brigand raids in the area is TSTL. An armed man who insists on the same is definitely taking a risk, but at least he’s better-equipped to deal with the danger. Furthermore, TSTL behavior is often (but not always) followed by the other protagonist being forced to rescue the other person out of the completely avoidable consequences brought on by the TSTL behavior. I have NEVER seen a heroine having to rescue a TSTL hero out of an untenable situation that he could’ve avoided if he’d only, say, taken a big heavy stick with him before checking out that strange noise in the cellar.
And that’s the thing. I don’t think we’ll ever see a true TSTL hero. Having a hero who needs rescuing from his own stupidity is not sexy. Having a hero who’s that incompetent is just lame. I think heroines are allowed to be TSTL partly because everyone (including feminists like me) assumes women are more helpless than men, and in some ways featherheaded behavior is more forgivable. And of course we don’t need to be sexually attracted to the heroine, so that type of stupid mong behavior is more easily forgiven in a heroine (though we may find it annoying as shit) but I doubt we’d forgive the same kind of thing in a hero. This may, in fact, be one of the few areas in which the hero has a lot less leeway given to him than a heroine.
Sarah: No, it’s certainly not TSTL behavior. I don’t think a hero has ever done that kind of thing, blindly and blithely wandered into danger, like the dumb chick in a horror movie going into the scary creepy dark house alone. I have seen a few books where the hero has ended up in a tight spot and his girlfriend has had to bail him out, but that was just intervention, not saving him from his own stupid bloody self.
I know of a few books in which both the villain momentarily outsmarted the heroine and the hero, and in one case the hero’s mistress bailed him out—but that wasn’t due to heedlessness or sheer idiocy. It was more due to circumstances and a good bit of cunning on the part of the villain. However, whenever that has happened, and the hero and the heroine are bailed out, the hero redeems himself in the reader’s eyes by kicking the ever living shit out of the villain and company, and makes himself into the big strong ass kicking danger man that he is meant to be. He may be momentarily down but as a romance hero, is never wussed out.
You are completely right that weakness is not favored for heroes. Even heroes who are physically weak are brilliantly smart, artistically gifted, blessed with a six foot dong - it is a rule, it seems, that a hero must be Spectacularly Endowed in one (or more) areas and if that area isn’t physical strength, his skill in another venue more than makes up for his lack of manful brute strength. A hero cannot be a wuss. And I am ok with that. I expect the hero to be worthy of the heroine. I HATE it, however, when the heroine is not worthy of the hero’s effort to gain her attention.
Candy: I think we expect the hero to be worthy of the heroine in very specific ways, and the heroine to be worthy of the hero in other specific ways. Can you imagine a romance novel in which the hero bumbles around as much as some heroines do and still coming across as attractive? I don’t like either the hero or heroine to thoughtlessly endanger themselves, of course, but when it comes down to it I really do think I’ll find it easier to forgive the heroine for TSTL behavior (up to a point) vs. a hero.
So much for me being a feminist who enjoys the subversion of gender roles, eh? I enjoy my subversion only SO FAR and no further, dammit. Sigh.
What I do like are situations in which the heroine is set up for a grand rescue scene, and she ends up rescuing herself, and all the hero has to do is mop up what’s left of the villain. Loretta Chase has one such scene in Viscount Vagabond that’s just hilarious.
Sarah: Well, there’s subversion of gender roles, and then there’s inconsistency. I mean, I do know plenty of individual women who are indeed pretty damn dim. But do I know a dude that stupid, who would walk down the subway tunnels because someone told him there was treasure just past the 42nd street station? Not really. I think it might also be a cultural thing—there is still a good bit of opinion that the Men take care of the Women and there is some shifting in the seat when one encounters the reverse. How does a stay-at-home husband deal with his powerful, breadwinning wife? It happens, but a lot of people wonder what its like because it isn’t always common, especially outside of urban areas.
And also, consider the readership: women read romance novels, and sometimes, you’re looking for a juicy escape to sweep you away, and a hero that sweeps you and the heroine off her feet is a delicious way to spend an hour. Sure it obeys gender roles that are insufferable when you come up against them in Real Life, but sometimes, it’s just delicious.





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by Candy • Friday, March 25, 2005 at 12:06 PM
I was reading CrankyReader’s entry on her latest Ken Follett glom, and a comment she made caught my eye. She noted that people who love soggy romantic fiction a la Nicholas Sparks and Robert James Waller also love to make fun of people who read romance novels, and yeah, I’ve noticed that too. It really, really peeves me.
Those books are every bit as formulaic as romance novels, and aside from a lack of explicit sex and the lack of an HEA guarantee, they bear more than a passing resemblance to our beloved rippers de corsage. Many of these books are also every bit as badly-written as the worst romance novels. I couldn’t finish the one Nicholas Sparks novel I picked up (Message In a Bottle) because the I could feel the beginnings of a diabetic coma approaching, and the other book from that genre that I read, The Lighthouse Keeper, was… oh God, it was so bad. If I didn’t have to review it for AAR at the time, I never would’ve finished that, either. And if I’d been writing for Smart Bitches at the time, I might’ve finished it, but the review would’ve been so filled with profanity, I would’ve had to change the website’s background from pink to blue.
Just to give you an idea of how that book was: The Lighthouse Keeper ties with Desire’s Blossom for the worst book I’ve ever read in my life. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
I haven’t tried anything else from that genre since. This may sound really odd coming from a person who relishes reading romance novels, but: my threshold is really low when it comes to sentimentality. You’re looking at (or reading the words of, at any rate) the coldhearted bitch who made gagging sounds during the scene in the beginning of Finding Nemo when Daddy Fish was all “You’re all I have left my pwecious widdle son and I’ll always take care of you.”
But this coldheartedness is not remotely consistent, of course. No, that’d make it too easy. Like that scene right at the end of The Dream Hunter—OK, this is a spoiler, so please highlight the text to find out what I’m talking about if you’ve read TDH already or if, like me, you don’t give a shit about spoilers—so that scene at the end in which Arden gives Zenia the paper with the spell written on it to assure her of his love, and it turns out to be “I Love You” written backwards or whatever? SWOOOOOOON. That one scene single-handedly lifted that book from C territory into B. (OK, that scene and Arden in general, who’s one of my all-time favorite heroes.)
Uh, what’s my point again? Hmmm. OK, hang on, here it is: Bad writing can be found in any genre. I’m sure there are good examples of this sort of soggy masculine romantic fiction, books that are a credit to the genre as opposed to horrifying embodiments of every awful Movie-Of-The-Week cliche in existence. (As a side note: anyone know what this genre is called? Or does it not deserve to be labelled because the writers are predominantly male, instead of female? I vote for Squish-Lit, to indicate the state of your heart and hanky after you finish one of these.) I will read and enjoy just about any kind of story as long as it’s well-written, but I’ll also readily admit that given my distaste for a certain kind of mawkishness, and given the ease with which these sorts of books can fall into the Crevasse of Neverending Sappiness, I’m a harder sell than most.
God, now that I’m looking over what I wrote, this whole rant has basically been a long-winded way of saying: people in glass houses should turn off the light before putting on trousers.
Or something.
Sigh.
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by Candy • Tuesday, March 22, 2005 at 11:14 PM
This is Part III of a series I named Getting My Hackles Up. Why such a singularly retarded name? No freakin’ clue. “In Defense Of Romance” was already taken, OK? Part I tackles the accusation that all romance novels are crap because they’re so unrealistic, and Part II examines the claim that romance novels are nothing but girl-porn. (Oh, and I just noticed that I use Arabic numerals in the titles and Roman numerals in the text. Huh. I’m not about to go change this in the archives, so I guess I’m stuck with this convention.)
So yeah, predictability is yet another accusation leveled somewhat smugly by people who have never read romance novels to point out how incredibly awful the whole genre must be. “Aren’t you tired of reading the same ‘boy meets girl’ story over and over again?” is one of the most common questions friends of mine ask when they find out I like romance novels—oddly enough, right after they ask me how I can stand to read such unrealistic fiction, and why I bother reading glorified pornography.
First of all, the vast majority of fiction is pretty predictable. When I pick up an SF or fantasy adventure novel, I know for a fact that the Evil Empire will be defeated by the end of the book or the trilogy, or in the case of Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time series, by the end of about 873 books in which the most prominent feature is Rand Al’Thor pondering his navel and whining about his fate with ever-increasing tiresomeness. If I decide to read a mystery novel or a thriller, I know the murderer, terrorist or other flavor of Very Bad Person will be caught. The monster/ghost/alien with a penchant for eviscerating humans and feasting on their steaming remains/evilly animated inanimate object/rabid doggie will be vanquished at the end of a horror novel, unless the author leaves a couple of ends loose in preparation for a sequel or spin-off, or unless you’re Richard Matheson, in which case your absolutely wonderful, groundbreaking novella about vampires will be turned into a dizzyingly campy yet oddly enjoyable 70s cheese-fest starring Charlton Heston.
But that’s genre fiction! some people may cry. Literary fiction is another thing entirely!
And this is where I get to sound kind of like a Mary Bly/Eloisa James interview, only with words like “ass” thrown in: It really doesn’t get a whole lot more literary than Shakespeare, right? I mean, the dude’s single-handedly responsible for preserving a whole host of English words we would’ve otherwise forgotten, and year after year parents of high school kids around the world are subjected to yet another painful interpretation of Midsummer Night’s Dream. How’s this for predictability: almost every comedy features misunderstandings galore between two different sets of couples, and if it’s a particularly sassy comedy, there’s some cross-dressing for added hilarity, but every comedy will end happily and the right couples will be paired up at the end. Every Shakespearean tragedy ends with loads of people dying, usually after some kind of bitter irony or revelation: “You dope, I wasn’t REALLY dead! Curse the lack of UPS Red in 16th-century Verona! Ah crap, might as well stab myself and join loverboy” or “Mwaaaahahahaha, you like that pie? That was actually ASS PIE, made from YOUR DEAD SONS’ ASSES!”
Other “literary” authors who wrote predictable (and dare I say, even formulaic) fiction include such esteemed Dead White Men and Women like Jane Austen, Thomas Hardy, Flannery O’Connor and Charles Dickens—and these are just a few names off the top of my head. I mean, honestly, did you really expect Tess of the D’Urbervilles to end in any way other than it did? Pfff. And Flannery O’Connor—I love her work and wrote my senior thesis on her short stories, but once you spot the trick, the payoff to her tales, you can see ‘em coming a mile away. That doesn’t interfere with my enjoyment of her off-kilter, grotesque narratives; actually, I enjoy trying to guess HOW exactly the payoff is going to happen. This is pretty much the same anticipation I feel in seeing how the hero and heroine in a romance novel achieve their HEA, or even in guessing how much more Jude’s life is going to suck before Hardy puts the poor schmuck out of his misery already.
I do grant that literary fiction has much fewer qualms about killing off likeable protagonists and occasionally allowing the Evil Empire to win. But even these types of fiction often follow a sort of well-worn pattern. In fact, reading some modern works, you can almost sense the authors gleefully rubbing their hands at the thought of the bittersweet irony they’ll interject into the books, ignoring with equal glee that just about every goddamn work of modern literary fiction in the past 30-40 years has been about bittersweet irony. And there’s nothing wrong with that, really. Hey, I adored The Corrections despite the mind-numbingly stupid hype that surrounded it.
There are a million different ways to work and re-work a theme, even something as timeworn as the story of two people finding love and happiness with each other. Depending on the author, the theme can be made fresh and new and beautiful, or it can become hackneyed, trite and boring. If love stories don’t rock your world, then just say so. Don’t try to claim that they all suck because they’re so predictable, because if you’re holding a John Grisham book while you make that claim, I will point at you and laugh. LOUDLY.





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by Candy • Friday, March 18, 2005 at 09:43 AM
Wendy Duren posted a link to this article about Lauren Willig, and really it isn’t too bad considering it’s a mainstream publication covering something related to romance novels. But certain turns of phrase in this article have given me a pretty good case of Sand in the Vagina syndrome. You’ve been warned.
As Wendy herself noted, the use of “trashy romance” here seems completely unwarranted:
It seems a natural progression for a woman who got in trouble in the third grade for bringing a trashy romance novel to school.
OK, I know we have “Trashy” in our blog name too, but look, it’s kinda like a gay man calling his gay friends “queens” or “fags.” Or even a breeder like me saying something like “God, nothing more I hate than a fag on the rag” to my friend Garrett when he’s flipping out over his new hand-made rug getting its pile rubbed the wrong way. On the other hand, there’s a whole other dimension to those words when the person who uses them is a shitstomping homophobe who cheered when Matthew Shepard was killed.
OK, did I just compare homophobia to romance novel reading? Glurk. OK, just to make sure we’re clear, these two are NOT EVEN IN THE SAME UNIVERSE in terms of seriousness, but still, y’all get the sense of what I’m trying to say? Being “in the community” gives people a certain amount of leeway that generally isn’t afforded to people outside the community. And even then I know some people aren’t particularly thrilled with our decision to use the word “trashy.” (But interestingly enough, I have yet to see anyone saying anything about our use of the word “bitches.” Huh.)
OK, so that’s not even the worst of the cause for my current case of Sand-In-Vagina-itis. This quote, right here? UGH.
“There is a perception that romance novels aren’t intelligent books, that the only people who read them are stay-at-home moms. That just isn’t the case,” Chittenden said.
WHOA THERE. First of all: need we bring up the stereotype of the idle housewives wearing pink satin bathrobes and reading their romance novels featuring an “airbrushed Fabio” while munching on bon-bons? Because really, that is so 1986.
Second of all: Stay-at-home moms are somehow more stupid than a woman who decides to work outside the home? I mean, ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I have a good friend who’s a stay-at-home mom, and she’s creepily smart. Do NOT try to engage her in a discussion about Old Testament scholarship, because she will kick your ass. Even now, even though she got her BA a year ago and she doesn’t have to turn in any more papers, she will read big, clunky textbooks for fun--and make notes. And ANNOTATE. But wait, she doesn’t read romance novels. That must be what has preserved whatever IQ was left her when she decided to put off law school and look after her little sprogs instead.
And you know what bugs me a lot, too? How the article just reeks of condescension. “Oh, how NICE that people with brains are reading and writing romances. Who would’ve thought people who read those heaving-bosom novels cared about accuracy?”
Gah. I’m off to cleanse my palate with some bon-bons now. Too bad pink satin bathrobes violate my company’s dress policy.
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by Candy • Monday, March 14, 2005 at 11:49 AM
Romancing the Blog has a column today by Larissa Ione, who reads romance novels solely for the hero. In fact, more often than not she hates the heroine.
This is fascinating to me. It’s a very, very weird viewpoint for me to process. I know people have argued that romance novel readers tend to identify more with the hero than the heroine, or at least be more forgiving of the hero than the heroine, and I can see that. Personally, I tend to be a bit more forgiving of the hero’s foibles and weaknesses, but honestly, the hero doesn’t have all that much more leeway than the heroine. In fact, I tend to get much angrier with asshole heroes than I do bitchy heroines, but then there are very, very few romance novels in which the heroine puts the hero through the same kind of wringer an alpha asshole is capable of. (Hmmmm, a heroine assuming a hero’s a slut and proceeding to rape him with a strap-on might make for a very interesting scenario, though. Heh.) The reverse is much more likely to be the problem in romance novels: heroines tend to be either too perfect, or have martyr complexes so you big you can see them from outer space.
Larissa discusses a few possibilities as to why she feels the way she does, and she says:
I’m not sure why I tend to not like heroines in romance novels. It may be that I expect a lot from women, so heroines sometimes disappoint. It may be that I want to relate to them, but I often can’t.
I think there’s another possibility that wasn’t brought up: it might be because of an odd species of competitiveness/possessiveness. Not that these readers are looney tunes and think the heroes are real and therefore are jealous of the heroine because she gets him and they don’t, but remember back in school when you had that massive crush on Simon LeBon or Jordan Knight or whoever, and they were YOURS and you got pissed off if your best friend developed a crush on him too? I’m thinking that maybe the extreme identification with the hero may originate from similar roots.
Now keep in mind this is just a theory and pure speculation on my part. I’ve been known to engage in colorectal linguistics, and this may very well be one of those times.
Something else I want to talk about is the issue of character identification, and what I find appealing (and not appealing) about romance novel protagonists. I don’t need to identify with the hero or heroine in order for me to like the book. To tell you the truth, the average romance novel hero is way too high-maintenance and has far too much emotional baggage for me to handle in real life, but I still love reading books featuring really tormented heroes. Ditto the heroine. It’s nice when the author is able to create characters who are so damn likeable you wished they lived next door so you could invite them over on weekends to watch bad movies with you and snark at them together (Christy and Anne from To Love and to Cherish did actually inspire that kind of wistfulness in me), but it’s certainly not a necessity. What I do need is for the hero and heroine to be convincing, sympathetic entities to whom I can relate on a very basic level, and who behave in consistent, non-annoying ways.
These are my very general guidelines for what I consider to be a good romance novel hero:
- He needs to be HOT. I don’t mean he has to be muscle-bound, and I don’t mean he has to have chiseled features. There just needs to be something about him that’s overwhelmingly attractive, and mostly that’s personality-driven, though I do have certain physical trait “dealbreakers” that are due to my own tastes in real life. I’m not physically attracted to overweight men, for example. I’m chubby enough for the both of us, thanks. But yeah, the hero has to be hot. He has to talk hot, act hot and to a certain degree, look hot. Jennifer Crusie’s Harlequins like Getting Rid of Bradley and What The Lady Wants had heroes who weren’t particularly good-looking in the traditional sense, but something about them was just, you know. HOT.
- At the end of the day, he needs to treat the heroine like a queen, and if he’s engaged in any rat bastardry, he has to beat himself up appropriately over it and be really really really really really sorry he assumed, said or did any of the asstarded things he has to the beyond-patient heroine.
These are my very general guidelines for what I consider to be a good romance novel heroine:
- She needs to be not-stupid. I don’t mean smart, though I do enjoy reading books about intellectually gifted women. But she can’t be Too Stupid To Live, and should she engage in TSTL behavior, she needs to be appropriately remorseful and not repeat the behavior again. All I ask from my heroines is that at no point do I feel compelled to yell out loud or think very, very emphatically “THAT IS REALLY FUCKING STUPID. PLEASE DIE SO WE CAN REMOVE YOU FROM THE GENE POOL, K THX.”
- She can’t be too perfect. I hate perfect heroines. Oh look, she’s a healer, and a sharpshooter, and a super horsewoman, and she’s beautiful, and she has magnificent ta-tas, and her hey-nanner-nanner is always lavishly well-lubricated yet pleasingly tight, and she’s possessed of more compassion than the Goddess of Mercy and the Virgin Mary combined, and she’s super-smart, and emotionally vulnerable yet grounded at the same time.... FEH. I don’t want a paragon. I want a real woman, not Nancy fucking Drew.
Yeah, notice how I didn’t list “hot” anywhere in my requirements for the heroine. Double-standards? Oh you betcha. I guess I do want the heroine to be attractive and practice appropriate personal hygiene and all that jazz, but mostly it’s because I want the hero’s attraction to her to be believable. To phrase it another way: the hero has to be hot to me and to the heroine, but the heroine just has to be hot to the hero. For example, Seize the Fire has a heroine who’s downright plain, but it doesn’t matter because Sheridan (talk about a HOT hero who manages to tread the very, very fine line dividing good guys from bad) finds her supremely attractive. Yeah, I know, personal fantasy fulfillment much?
And of course I don’t want a TSTL hero, and I don’t want a heroine who abuses the hero non-stop either, but generally these aren’t major problems in romance novels; the problems with characterization that I see over and over again seem to be pretty clearly demarcated along gender lines. Even with my very simple criteria, it’s amazing how many authors fuck it up, and the multitude of ways this fuckage can happen are also legion. A bad heroine will spoil my reading experience just as surely as a bad hero will. I do find that writers generally fuck up both of them at the same time. If the hero is annoying, chances are the heroine will be just as annoying too. I can’t think of any time my experience has mirrored Larissa’s, in which I hate (and I mean HATE, not just “feel mildly and occasionally annoyed with") the heroine but still end up loving the hero and, consequently, the book.
It’s not all about the man for me. Not even close. I’m all about the equal opportunity hateration, baby. And the equal-opportunity love.





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