BookTrailers:AQ&AWithJackieKessler,ToniMcGeeCausey,andColleenGleason

by SB Sarah Monday, August 27, 2007 at 06:45 AM

I started emailing back and forth with Jackie Kessler, who contacted me about her new book trailer for her new book, The Road to Hell, which you can see at her website.

The first book commercial I can remember from the past few years of tv watching (and I don’t watch a lot of tv and even then I skip commercials) was for a Patterson book where he held the book next to his head and said, ‘Buy my book, Cat & Mouse.’ It was totally creepy and didn’t give me any intention of buying his book. I know that a good number of mega-releases have tv commercials, but trailers are an online phenomenon as far as I can tell. And with trailers, in every instance, if I wanted to go see one, I’ve had to go look for it.

I have to admit: I do not entirely understand the book trailer phenomenon. I get that it’s an audio-visual promo for the book, and I get that they are The Hot New Thing, after mixing black and navy for this fall’s hottest new look (another thing I don’t get, by the way) but I don’t quite understand the WHY of book trailers, and more specifically, the HOW. How do authors get them done? Why? What’s the goal? What’s up with that? And WHO decided black looked good with blue!? I look like a bruise if I mix navy and black.

While Jackie couldn’t answer my fashion questions, she did give me a whole mess ‘o insight into the process and purpose of a book trailer. Plus she steered me to two other book-trailer mavens, Colleen Gleason and Toni McGee Causey, who were kind enough to also answer my questions. And dang, did I have some questions.

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Picture of Ellen Ellen said on...
08.27.07 at 07:44 AM |

Not only have I never seen a trailer that made me more likely to buy a book, I can’t even imagine a situation in which that would happen. I don’t sit around watching book trailers (partly because I haven’t seen many that were interesting, and partly because… why would I?), so any I run across are likely to be for books I’ve already heard about and—if I’m willing to spend the time to watch them—books I’m already considering buying.

I’d much rather read an excerpt or a synopsis of a book if I’m considering buying it than watch a trailer; the trailer isn’t likely to be representative, since it’s in a different format.

All that said, I think Colleen’s point about videos being viral is a good one—I might very well pick up a book by someone who had created a YouTube video I enjoyed. I don’t see such a video being a trailer for the book, though. Something like an author’s reading might be worthwhile. The best thing would be a video that’s related to the book but not connected—something that’s not packaged as publicity. The best example I can think of here is Maureen Johnson’s The Great Harrod’s Caper; I can see myself watching that and thinking, “Who is this person? Does she write books? Because I want to read them if so.” It looks like the video only has about 850 views, though.

Picture of M said on...
08.27.07 at 08:02 AM |

Book trailers do NOT inspire me to buy a book--on the contrary, some of them are so ridiculously cheesy I am completely turned off.  I buy a book because the blurb or the excerpt caught my attention or because the author is an autobuy.

Picture of Dee Tenorio Dee Tenorio said on...
08.27.07 at 08:41 AM |

Well, I like the idea of having a place to come see a host of trailers. If someone made THAT site, I’d be there all the time. I love watching movie trailers. I’d watch more book trailers if I could find them without a bunch of work.

Oh, don’t forget Stonecreek Media. Far more affordable and still quality work for a whole bunch of web stuff.

Picture of Teddy Pig Teddy Pig said on...
08.27.07 at 08:50 AM |

It’s trying to sell one medium with another like radio promos. I do not know if they work very well.

I would rather see ads and excerpts and interviews in magazines and newspapers.

Picture of Jenyfer Matthews Jenyfer Matthews said on...
08.27.07 at 09:01 AM |

I’m also in the blurb / excerpt camp. I have to seriously limit how much time I spend cruising around the internet if I actually want to get any writing done so I don’t tend to go to YT or blogs unless there is a link from someplace like this!

I guess I could see how trailers might work IF you could get them in front of thousands of people who wouldn’t otherwise come to your website, but personally, at this point in my career I can’t afford a trailer at prices they mention, even if I had a way to get it out beyond my own personal site.

Picture of Ann Aguirre Ann Aguirre said on...
08.27.07 at 09:40 AM |

I don’t know anything about this, but I would have to say that I think the only place these might do some good is on TV. But even then, I’m not sure how it would translate to book sales.

It might increase name recognition, though, which is good. I read somewhere about people having a “three time” rule before buying. Like if they hear about a book or author three times in one month that the book comes out, then they buy it.

Picture of Qadesh said on...
08.27.07 at 10:04 AM |

For the question of live action trailers, I know Christine Feehan does a whole lot of them.  If you become a member of her site you can view them.

On a personal note I only know of one that got enough buzz to make people I knew interested in a book and it was one made by Lara Adrian for her Midnight Breed series.  They liked it, looked for the books, liked those and then spread the word to others who enjoy Paranormals.  So, in that sense it worked.  Their buzz, plus the trailer made me buy them.

But I can really see how a trailer, if it is done well, could create buzz within the publisher themselves.  I would also say, that other than websites, it seems like it is one of the things that an author would have the most control of.  An author can’t control a cover or even the name of the book, but a trailer produced or made with the author’s input is another story.  That would hold a lot of appeal.

Picture of SB Sarah said on...
08.27.07 at 10:06 AM |

An author can’t control a cover or even the name of the book, but a trailer produced or made with the author’s input is another story.  That would hold a lot of appeal.

That’s part of what intrigues me, Qadesh. The manuscript is all author, then there’s a whole mess of people involved in developing the final product, but the trailer, that’s back to the author and her “vision” for lack of a better term. Makes me consider trailers in a different light, since before I did the interview with these three authors I really thought, “Ok, movie about book? WHY?”

Picture of MaryKate said on...
08.27.07 at 10:10 AM |

I am not a fan of book trailers in general, although Colleen’s for The Rest Falls Away was genius. In general, I think they’re a waste of space though. I think the best way to build momentum for a book is by interacting with readers, mostly by blogging. I find that’s the way to get me excited about a book or series.

That being said, I do think the idea of building momentum within the publishing house is an interesting one though. I’d never even considered that.

Question: Do Nora’s commercials count as trailers? I think of them more as an add for Nora, rather than an add for the book itself.

I look at the trailers as more about a specific book than the author themselves. The one book trailer that sticks out in my memory was for a Christine Feehan book, I can’t remember which one, but all I could think was that the actor portraying the hero was no where near good looking enough. That, and the cheese factor was very high for me. It was then that I wondered why do it.

Also, aren’t most of us here already established romance readers? I’d love to know what someone who doesn’t really read romance thinks. They might have a different opinion.

Picture of Chris Chris said on...
08.27.07 at 10:50 AM |

The first time I saw one, I thought I thought it was an interesting idea and I did enjoy it. But I’m a reader, so I like anything to do with books. Whether or not, a trailer would induce a non-reader to buy a book is questionable. And where would you advertise them other than the writer or publisher’s site?

I’ve watched trailers on the Harper Collins site and I have enjoyed them and made a mental note of a few but haven’t bought the book yet.

I do think they have to be interesting in order to work. Cheese isn’t go to do it for me.

Picture of Desertwillow said on...
08.27.07 at 11:11 AM |

I used to watch the trailers on Christine Feehan’s website. I think Susan Squire (regency vampires, right?) did some. CF’s early ones were kind of cheesy IMHO but they might have improved. SS’s were very elegant. But I can’t honestly say the trailers impact my book buying. Kind of fun though.

Picture of SamG said on...
08.27.07 at 11:57 AM |

I’ve only ever watched trailers when I was visiting an author site anyway.  I have never gone to look for one.  I also haven’t bought a book because of a trailer. I was on her site because I like her, so her books are an auto buy anyway.

That being said, my reaction is pretty much lukewarm.

Picture of Alison Kent Alison Kent said on...
08.27.07 at 12:24 PM |

I have definitely purchased books because of trailers - the most notable being Toni McGee Causey’s.  I didn’ care for the cover of the book, so would have passed it by, but the trailer?  Oh yeah.  Convinced me immediately that if I liked the writing, the story was going to be a hoot.

Michael Connelly had a great live action for ECHO PARK.  Chris Marie Green’s for her Vampire Babylon series was awesome.  I would have bought both books anyway, but those trailers were great advertisements.

Picture of Barb Ferrer Barb Ferrer said on...
08.27.07 at 12:41 PM |

I decided to go with a trailer, despite being incredibly AGAINST them for the longest time, for the exposure they would give me with my target audience (or one of them, at least).

I’m not sure, yet, how well it’s working, but I do know that the major bookstores are looking more and more for trailers to include in their online/email newsletters, FWIW.

And my RITA dress was navy blue and black.  I think it worked rather well.  ;-)

Picture of Marta Acosta Marta Acosta said on...
08.27.07 at 01:46 PM |

I’m trying to figure out if book trailers are really worth the effort and money.  But after watching some trailers that stunk up the joint, I decided to have a contest that would show that people could be creative when making trailers.

The Smart Bitches are two of the judges of my Best & Worst Book Trailer of a Classic Novel Contest.  First prize, Adobe’s Creative Design Suite 3 Pro.  It’s worth $1800 and if you don’t want it, enter and win it for the SBs.

For details, go to my blog, http://www.martaacosta.blogspot.com.

Picture of anonymous reader said on...
08.27.07 at 02:04 PM |

I agree with most on here...that a good blurb or good first page will get me reading more than a book trailer. However, my biggest ‘huh?’ moment with book trailers is why?  Why does a printed item need a visual advertisement beyond its cover? A book is about reading...imagining for yourself. Some book trailers just give you images, but I’ve seen some that use models or actors to portray parts...and it just ruins the idea of creating the character I see in my head.

Plus, I’m sorry, but the first thing I do is compare a book trailer to the very slick, very well done movie trailers for something that *is* visual entertainment and on which Hollywood spends a lot more than a few thousand dollars.

I think authors believe them to really help sales or get their name out there, when I think that $1000 or $2000 would be better spent on a big ad in romantic times or internet ads, like here on the Smart Bitches site. If they were so good at increasing sales, wouldn’t the bigger authors be doing them?

Just my two cents.

Picture of Qadesh said on...
08.27.07 at 03:16 PM |

The manuscript is all author, then there’s a whole mess of people involved in developing the final product, but the trailer, that’s back to the author and her “vision” for lack of a better term.

Exactly SB Sarah, I can see it as a means by which an author can take control of part of the marketing of a book.  And that is especially true if she is putting out the moolah for it’s production.  It might be pricey, but some might also find it empowering.

I know some have questioned if they work.  I can tell you in the case of Lara Adrian’s, the website address for it was passed around some of the readers groups at Yahoo.  A lot of these are groups that usually are geared for a particular author or subgenre.  So if you get one person to view the trailer and think it looks good, then they might post a message to their group/s saying check this out it’s by a “new” author.  You now have people who might not be familiar with the author viewing a trailer for a book or series they might not have even been aware of.  If they are then curious and pick up the book and like it, they talk it up even more.  If you can get them into the right hands they can work for you even if they are in a different medium than the written word.  I wouldn’t discount them entirely.

Picture of Wry Hag Wry Hag said on...
08.27.07 at 04:35 PM |

Boy, I don’t know.  I watched some of the COS examples and, visually and aurally captivating as they were, they sure as hell didn’t hook my interest in the books themselves.  Trailers only fascinate me because of what they are--"trailer art"--not because of the books they’re pitching. 

Gimme good old-fashioned blurbs and excerpts, baby!  And maybe some recommendations that are articulately rendered.  The bottom line for me is always this: If I don’t like the way a writer writes, I’m not going to bother reading her/his books.  No adequate grasp of the storyline combined with no sample of the prose = no sale.

Picture of fiveandfour fiveandfour said on...
08.27.07 at 04:45 PM |

I’m on the fence on the concept and about whether it would influence me in a positive or negative way to purchase or read a book.  On the one hand I hate being “sold to” and since books are one of the last forms of entertainment where I don’t feel sold to 24/7 (as opposed to, say, movies) it’s a little painful to see books go down that marketing path.  On the other, it could be a way to quickly grab my attention on a book I might otherwise not notice or ignore.

But what I see happening is that soon we’ll be walking into Borders or Barnes & Noble (or your big box of choice) and see flat screen tvs all over the place playing trailers in the same way that you see trailers playing non-stop at a movie house or video store.  Because if these things are going to be truly effective, that’s where they need to be, right?

Frankly, that thought scares me quite a lot. 

When it does come, I think we’ll likely also see the same thing happening with book trailers as we see for other forms of entertainment: the “big” names or books will get the guaranteed slots in the rotation and the nice budgets and the catchy productions.  Meanwhile, the smaller names or independent publishers will be priced out of the market and end up hanging out on the internet just as they are now.

Picture of C.M. said on...
08.27.07 at 05:08 PM |

I suppose book trailers aren’t really amazingly geared towards reeling in the already-established community of readers.

I can see the potential, however, of a viral trailer getting an author’s name out there. The more people know about you, the better. Attracting the new audience in the new generations is critical.

Ideas for a viral trailer? Well, as previously stated, it has to feel not like an ad. It could be a puzzle, or a tease—don’t put actors in there. Something that gets you excited about the concept of the book. Excerpts read aloud? Maybe a little controversy attached. Something that gets people talking saying ‘have you seen the book trailer of *insert title/author here*? Are they for real?’

Picture of Serena said on...
08.27.07 at 06:16 PM |

I’m with those who aren’t very excited about trailers.  The only ones I’ve seen, on Christine Feehan’s website, are all for books I’ve read.  I’m usually snickering about 15 seconds, with the distinct feeling someone’s waving a whole block of Velveeta around. 

Maybe my adverse reaction is so strong, because I’ve already read the books, and my imagination never matches with the actors cast.  The trailers are usually so vague, that even having read the books, it’s difficult to get an accurate sense of what the book is about.

I’m all for blurbs, teasers and good cover art.

Picture of Alison Kent Alison Kent said on...
08.27.07 at 06:38 PM |

Something that gets people talking saying ‘have you seen the book trailer of *insert title/author here*?

My favorite to fall into this category is the one for HIDE by Lisa Gardner.

Picture of Ann Bruce Ann Bruce said on...
08.27.07 at 07:12 PM |

Just say NO to book trailers.  Movie trailers, yes.  Book trailers, no.

Book trailers do not do anything for me.  In fact, I’ve found myself steering away from books because of them and the corniness!!  Oh, the cheese.  The ones I saw made me think the romance genre just took several leaps back.

You want part of my $2000 annual budget for books?  Good blurb, good excerpt.  That’s it.  I’m pretty easy.

Picture of megalith megalith said on...
08.27.07 at 07:36 PM |

Marta, I can only find four trailers for your contest on YouTube. Are there more, or is that all you’ve gotten so far? (I searched under “MA contest”.)

As far as book trailers in general, I think the ones that interest me stick to telling the premise of the book in a simple but interesting way. But, as someone who reads a lot already, even a well-written review or a brief video interview with the author would have kept my interest more than the few trailers I’ve seen, and I still like an excerpt best. Reading a sample of the author’s writing is what will make me actually look for a book next time I’m in the bookstore.

Picture of Jami Alden Jami Alden said on...
08.27.07 at 07:41 PM |

I don’t really pay attention to book trailers - I waste so much time on the net already, I’ve avoided most of them. And since I can barely manage to keep my web page up to date for f’s sake, I can’t imagine doing a book trailer.  Here’s where I can see it being valuable:  imagine if Wal Mart, Target, B&N and Borders had big flat screen monitors and you or your publisher could buy advertising time to have your trailer running on a TV right next to the shelf that has your book.  Then I might consider doing one.

Picture of Angela Angela said on...
08.27.07 at 11:17 PM |

I’ll look at them if I have time on my hands but for the most part, if I’m on an author’s website, it’s because I’m already a fan. If I don’t know who they are, I’m looking for excerpts. And even if I’ve heard buzz, looking at a trailer doesn’t really give me a feel for the book and the author’s voice. So I guess I’m saying they’re a bust for me.

On the Lara Adrian note, would she have gotten as much buzz had the trailer been for her medievals(as written under Tina St. John)? The fact that she’s a paranormal author and her publisher had a good amount of print ads out there brings a whole ‘nother angle to the WOM she received from her book trailer.

Picture of darlynne said on...
08.28.07 at 08:07 AM |

I’d never even heard of book trailers, but after viewing those being discussed here, my vote is definitely for the less-is-more approach for Ms. Gleason’s and Ms. Kessler’s books, if one is going to have them at all. Although the premise of Bobbie Faye’s Very Bad Day intrigued me (yay blurbs!), the live action video totally threw me out of the mood. I felt as though I were watching The Dukes of Hazzard or My Name is Earl. Since one of the joys of reading is MY vision of the world the author created, a trailer such as this runs the risk of preventing me from buying the book at all.

Picture of Marta Acosta Marta Acosta said on...
08.28.07 at 10:49 AM |

Megalith said, “Marta, I can only find four trailers for your contest on YouTube. Are there more, or is that all you’ve gotten so far? (I searched under “MA contest”.)”

I know.  Isn’t it tragic?  Pretty much anyone who enters will win a prize. 

Like so many things (jet packs, a Scott Baio reality show, the Macarena), it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Picture of iffygenia iffygenia said on...
08.28.07 at 12:59 PM |

I must not be the target audience.  I tried, but I still don’t get it.  In the 60 seconds I spent watching a trailer done at someone else’s pace and conveying very little about the book, I could have read a review or an excerpt on the author’s website.  Because the book ultimately involves reading, not watching, those are much more valuable to me.

I watched the 3 trailers you highlighted.  The live-action one turned me right off.  The other two conveyed atmosphere (though I couldn’t read most of the text in Gleason’s).  But neither one connects in my mind to buying a book.

However, C.M. may have a point:

I suppose book trailers aren’t really amazingly geared towards reeling in the already-established community of readers.

I can see the potential, however, of a viral trailer getting an author’s name out there. The more people know about you, the better. Attracting the new audience in the new generations is critical.

Picture of Qadesh said on...
08.28.07 at 01:38 PM |

On the Lara Adrian note, would she have gotten as much buzz had the trailer been for her medievals(as written under Tina St. John)? The fact that she’s a paranormal author and her publisher had a good amount of print ads out there brings a whole ‘nother angle to the WOM she received from her book trailer.

Angela, I really don’t know.  But I know in my case I wasn’t aware of her at all, under any name.  Did her trailer by itself cause me to buy her books?  Nope.  It just put her on my radar.  Some people whose taste runs similar to mine read her books and suggested I pick them up.  I don’t remember seeing any of the ads, but I do know that Border’s had a big push on for her.  She had pretty prominent placement in the store.  But that alone doesn’t mean I will pick up the book.  I read so much, and have so many authors I follow that it is hard for me to ad new ones to the mix. 

Do trailers themselves cause readers to buy a book?  No, IMO not.  However, if they are done well and are catchy it is possible that they might get a potential reader to go check out an author’s website and that in turn can lead them to read an excerpt and maybe get interested in purchasing a book.  It can at least cause you to have a ‘hmm’ moment when you run across the spine of the book on the shelf, because unlike the hundreds of other authors, you have heard of that one.  Then the author can get the chance to get the sale if the writing appeals. 

Now, that being said I’ve found most trailers are so bad that they wouldn’t interest me in picking up the book and that is for books I’ve already purchased.  I think a bad trailer could do more harm than good.  But for a new series or new author who has several books coming out in a short space of time, in that case I can see where the cost might be worth it.  However, I don’t think they can replace the excerpt.  Those will always be more a better gage of whether you like an author or not.  But, I do think trailers can get an author some attention that they might not otherwise get.  And that is the name of the game isn’t it?

Picture of Angelia Sparrow Angelia Sparrow said on...
08.28.07 at 06:06 PM |

I make my own book trailers.  I was into vidding when I was in fandom, so I can at least cut to the beat.

I tend to use still photographs (public domain) interspersed with text.

I enjoy watching other trailers.  But since my book budget is $0, (like my clothing and my auto maintenance and almost all other budgets) I seldom buy any.

I figure, I put out covers and excerpts on all my blogs.  And I put the commercials on youtube and imeem.  It’s all about reaching the most people with word you’re out.

Picture of Estara Estara said on...
08.31.07 at 12:36 PM |

re: what would make me buy a book if I hadn’t heard of it before.

Since I live in Germany and I have never seen a native English speaking romance author signing here yet, I also rely on review sites and cover blurbs. But if anything movie-like gets me to be interested in books or authors I haven’t read yet,it would be http://www.romancenovel.tv/

They ask interesting questions and you see the authors explaining their bits, and then we have Gina’s picks, which basically are short reviews, too.

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