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by SB Sarah Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 06:30 AM

I got an email from Amazon letting me know that, as “someone who purchased a similar book in the past,” I might be interested in Black Rose, book two of the In the Garden trilogy by Nora Roberts.

There are a lot of mixed feelings about Nora. Some people hate her, some are completely indifferent, and some people really love her. I used to love everything she wrote, and relied on her for unequivocably entertaining reading. If there is a new Nora Roberts within a few months of a time when I know I’ll have a lot of reading time (car trip, plane trip, vacation), I buy it, hoarde it, and read it start to finish.

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Picture of sybil sybil said on...
05.18.05 at 07:30 AM |

I still haven’t read her but I don’t care much for ghosts.

Although I did enjoy A Date With the Other Side by Erin McCarthy.

Picture of E.D'Trix E.D'Trix said on...
05.18.05 at 07:30 AM |

Hmmm, I don’t mind paranormal, per se, but I agree, the ghosts don’t thrill me either. It is not Nora’s fault, I just have never been a fan of the ghost paranormal (or time-travel, or the manly angels sent from heaven to take care of a single mother and her beeeeyoootiful, pwecious toddler).

However, I actually read and enjoyed Blue Dahlia--for the characters rather than the paranormal plot. IMO, Roberts strengths have always been her characters over her (sometimes fantastically cheez-whiz) plots.

So yes, I am going to be purchasing Black Rose. (Oooh, my capcha’s hell47—is this in retaliation to my dig at angel romance?)

Picture of Sarah Sarah said on...
05.18.05 at 08:09 AM |

Angel men are better when there’s a secret baby, too. Heh.

You are totally right, E, in that Roberts’ characters have been the draw over her plots - the same is true for me. But the ghost is both a plot device and a character and I can’t get into the idea from either perspective. The ghost as a device is going to be solved/vanquished, and thus that character will disappear.

Do let me know how you like Black Rose though.

Picture of Rosario Rosario said on...
05.18.05 at 08:20 AM |

I’m a sucker for romances which have the main characters investigating something paranormal (ghosts, visions from the past, whatever magic stuff you can think of), especially when they are part of a group of people who are doing the investigating. I think it might be related to my adoration of Barbara Michaels’ paranormals.

That’s why I loved the last book in the 3 Sisters Island trilogy and the Key trilogy. And I really, really enjoyed Midnight Bayou, which is another Nora with a ghost. In that one, though, I didn’t like the ghost part so much. The draw was the very beta hero with the tough heroine.

Picture of Keishon Keishon said on...
05.18.05 at 08:48 AM |

I just got the new Karen Robard’s romantic suspense from the library. After reading the first ten pages it was clear that she was throwing in some paranormal elements into the mix and I just don’t care for it these days.

I have read maybe one paranormal Nora and didn’t care it either. Just don’t care to read those types of books.

Let’s see: You have murder, mayhem, romance and ghosts. No thank you. You all can have at it.

Picture of Becca Becca said on...
05.18.05 at 08:50 AM |

I have mixed opinions about Nora’s semi-paranormals. I liked the 3 Sisters trilogy, was pretty bored by the Keys trilogy. Midnight Bayou left me feeling let-down: all that build up was just so one protagonist could say “I forgive you” and make it all better? In the Dream trilogy, I mostly ignore the Serafina stuff - the stories are much better without it.

I did enjoy Blue Dahlia, and look forward to Black Rose when it comes out, but I’ll most likely get it from the library first before buying it.

Picture of HelenKay HelenKay said on...
05.18.05 at 09:00 AM |

While I save my rabid dislike for vampire stories, paranormals do run a close second.  I’m still trying to get over Erin McCarthy’s trip to the paranormal side.  I love her so I have to read the damn thing but, man, when will this craze end.

Picture of Sarah Sarah said on...
05.18.05 at 10:48 AM |

I’m glad I’m not alone in my suspicions that this is Roberts’ answering the trend. Or perhaps, since her Silouhette series with the Donovan family of witches, she could be blamed for the upsurge?

Either way, if she starts writing a werewolf character, that’s it. I’m done.

Picture of Meljean Meljean said on...
05.18.05 at 01:38 PM |

Didn’t she write a werewolf in a novella recently? :D

I’m holding off on the Garden trilogy for right now—I think the Key trilogy was too much, too close together for me. I don’t mind the paranormal elements and I like her characters, but I think I might be Nora-ed out for a little while. I’ll probably catch up in a year or two, and see if the feeling holds.

Picture of Sarah Sarah said on...
05.18.05 at 03:58 PM |

Meljean, color me shocked. I never even saw that collection in stores, and Amazon sure didn’t pimp it for me, either. I am stunned. She wrote a werewolf. Wow.

I have officially been stunned by the paraNora.

Picture of Maili Maili said on...
05.18.05 at 04:08 PM |

Craze? We deserve it, dammit! We spent almost *20 years* suffering a few number of bad and/campy vampire and werewolf romances [I’d list those that could make your toenails cringe in embarrassment]. It’s getting interesting. And about time, too. The craze will die soon, though, as I’m already seeing the signs that it’s ending.

I’ll say this, though: I’ll die a happy woman if there are more steampunk romances and horror romances.

re: Nora’s paranormals. I’ve never managed to finish any of those books. Not even her TIME trilogy. I don’t know why, to be honest.

Picture of HelenKay HelenKay said on...
05.18.05 at 04:36 PM |

Let’s just say, I’m ready for a new craze or whatever you want to call it.

Picture of Amy E Amy E said on...
05.18.05 at 04:50 PM |

I cut my romance-reading teeth on the old Silhouette Shadows books.  Vampires, werewolves (and others), witches, warlocks, ghosts, and various other things that go bump (and occasionally hump) in the night.  I love ‘em.  Maybe I’m alone, but I think the return of the paranormal was long overdue, and I don’t want to see them go bye-bye just yet.

That’s not to say that they’re all terrific.  Some suck so bad, you could wave ‘em over your carpet instead of vacuuming.  Still, gimme a hot vamp or a uber-powerful warlock over a Greek Tycoon any day.  Or any other kind of Tycoon.  (I think it’s a category-law that Tycoon must be capitalized.) Same goes for Sheikhs, Princes (with the very rare exception, mostly in historicals), Outback-anythings and, ugh of all ughs, cowboys.  Shudder.

Picture of CindyS CindyS said on...
05.19.05 at 03:39 AM |

Yep, I am one of the few who has enjoyed the paranormal surge.  I also love Silhouette Shadows but, like you said, some of them were just plain bad.  The really good ones made up for the messy ones.

Vampires, were-animals and pychics - yeah!  Ghosts, witches and faeries (I always imagine bug like people) - boo!

I think romantica may have taken paranormal to an all new level - one I’m not sure I can follow.  I mean, you find out the guy/gal is a vampire and you have hot sweaty sex hours later?  Nah, I’d like to get to know a vamp first.

Also, color me stupid but what is steampunk?  Sounds like skankified sperm.  I know.  I’ll stop.

CindyS

Picture of Amy E Amy E said on...
05.19.05 at 04:55 AM |

Cindy, I didn’t recognize steampunk either, but I was picturing something more along the lines of the Sex Pistols.  Hmm… punk-rockers in luuurve?

Picture of Maili Maili said on...
05.19.05 at 06:08 AM |

*laughing* Steampunk is a sub-genre of Science Fiction, and it’s a realistic historical setting and fantastical elements, e.g. advanced technology that couldn’t have existed in the past. As in what if 18th century inventors managed to invent a racing car? And that it becomes part of the every day life during Jane Austen’s lifetime? It’s purposely anachronistic.

‘Steam’ as in a ‘steam train’ and ‘punk’ as in ‘the future’. Mostly because the Victorian setting is most popular. But it’s rapidly branching out to different time periods, such as Medieval, American Western, Anicent Greece, etc.

Book-wise, H. G. Wells’s THE TIME MACHINE, Tim Powers’s THE ANUBIS GATES, Jules Verne’s AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS, etc. 

Film-wise: THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN, TIME AFTER TIME, YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES, SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW, BRAZIL [1940s setting with 21st century technology], THE LOST WORLD [Sir Arthur Conan’s story], SLEEPING HOLLOW [remember those surgical tools?], CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG, VAN HESLING, etc. 

Here is a link that fully explains what steampunk is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk

Hope this helps. :)

Picture of Sarah Sarah said on...
05.19.05 at 07:17 AM |

I have to admit, the term “steampunk” absolutely makes me giggle like a 12 year old boy. Makes me think of “steamy funk,” i.e. the fresh steamies my dog leaves in the yard.

However, I do love the genre. It’s a buttload of fun.

And I will chime in (ding!) that I also love the surge of well-written paranormals. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong remains one of my favorite paranormals, both for the werewolfyness and the romantic end of the storyline, and I love a good monster story with romantic elements.

But when writers of contemporary romance start jumping into paranormals, sometimes they can do it, but in Nora’s case, I wish she’d go back to straight contemporary. No ghosts, no wolves. She’s written devil worshipping virgin sacrificing people, but they were just evil (often crazy) people, and that was way creepier than her attempts at paranormal monsters and ghosts.

I mean, what’s next, Danielle Steel writing shapeshifters?

Picture of Ankah Ankah said on...
05.19.05 at 09:07 AM |

“I mean, what’s next, Danielle Steel writing shapeshifters?”

Saraaaaaah! Don’t say that...now it will probably happen! You better knock on wood, turn around three times, and do a ritual healing dance with grass skirts and chicken bones to make it not so!

Picture of Candy Candy said on...
05.19.05 at 09:38 AM |

“I mean, what’s next, Danielle Steel writing shapeshifters?”

That made me throw up a little in my mouth.

Picture of Sarah Sarah said on...
05.19.05 at 09:52 AM |

Her face...shifted slowly like a shadow across the wall...her gaze unwavering as her gently sloping nose and arched wing brows softly swam into their graceful...almost liquid dance… leaving her not human, but a giant arachnid with a copper-colored face...and many, many beaded eyes.

To quote a New York Times Book Review: “no, no, Danielle, we do not use six ellipses in one sentence.”

Picture of E.D'Trix E.D'Trix said on...
05.19.05 at 10:35 AM |

My friends and I quite often bring out Danielle’s epic work of poetry, Love: Poems, at parties and convince people to do dramatic readings. A few rules are needed to spice up the poems sufficently:

1. Said poem must be read with a completely straight face and in some sort of dialect/accent.

2. Poem reader must have a friend standing nearby to perform an interpretive dance/sign language retelling of said poem. (If they are tipsy, so much the better.)

3. Whenever an ellipses occurs in the course of a poem (and boy, do they occur) one says out loud “ellipses, exclamation point, fuck-ahhh!”. Long story behind why we actually add the “fuck-ahhh” to it, but trust me, it goes over well in a liquored-up crowd.

Oh, forgot to add, the method for picking the poem is random flipping until the spirit moves you to stop.

Picture of CindyS CindyS said on...
05.20.05 at 01:23 PM |

In the name of all that is holy!!

Are you saying that Danielle Steele writes poetry? 

::dead faint::

CindyS

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