TooSnide?Yes?Toobad.

by SB Sarah Tuesday, August 05, 2008 at 08:40 AM

Seems this article in the Huffington Post about how blogs cannot possibly replace book reviews in newspapers made KatieBabs’ head spin around on her neck. (With anger, not because she’s possessed by the spirit of Col. Bimbo or anything). Bloggers cannot possibly replace book reviewers in newspapers, cries the author. Oh, they are so solipsistic and self-absorbed, and they use “I” too much.

So would it be snide of me to point out that if newspapers paid attention to the more profitable market share of fiction - that would be romance, folks - and reviewed books such as Kresley Cole’s, Nora Roberts’, or Nalini Singh’s recent novels, they might not necessarily be facing such dire financial straits? What, my economics has flaws? Please. My math skills bring all the boys to the yard, but mostly because they doesn’t don’t make any sense on this planet and thus are entertaining.

Yes, that’s a simplistic analysis and certainly one review of a romance novel would not turn the mothership of the economy around for any given newspaper, but while I try not to pay too much attention to analysis of blogs as writing formats, the bemoaning of the bloggers as the heiresses apparent to the now-dying review pages of newspapers bugs the crapola out of me:

I think book reviews on blogs—particularly those of the Blogspot variety—tend to be self-indulgent. Book reviewing bloggers need to move away from opinion in favor of judgment. How does the book compare to—and fit in with—the author’s previous work? What’s the book’s place in the genre? The canon? Does the writer succeed in doing what he or she set out to do—meaning, is it the book they meant it to be? Whether it’s the book the blogger wanted it to be is of much less importance to me, frankly.

We review romance because no one else in print did so consistently. I hold the books I read to any number of measuring standards as I write a review. Self-indulgent reflections on romance? Try: neglected as a genre too long. Put that in your newspaper and smoke it.

Comments

Picture of ev ev said on...
08.05.08 at 08:49 AM |

I can’t be bothered with reviews in papers or TV anymore. Do they really thing that WE care about what they like or don’t like? And are we really to believe that their opinions aren’t influenced by their likes/dislikes?

I don’t think anyone is that unbiased.

I would much rather read a bloggers opinion of a romance novel than some idiot who probably held their nose while reading it so it didn’t infect them with something. Like romance or a sense of humor.

Picture of toni toni said on...
08.05.08 at 08:54 AM |

I especially love the fact that the writer implied that newspaper reviewers have this certain ESP skill and can know what an author intended their book to be.  And we all know that readers everywhere go into the bookstore wanting to only pick up books that fall into a certain place in the canon, because really, shame on them if they just wanted to read for oh, say, fun.

Picture of Kalen Hughes Kalen Hughes said on...
08.05.08 at 08:57 AM |

Does the writer succeed in doing what he or she set out to do—meaning, is it the book they meant it to be?

Um, just how the hell would they know?

Picture of Christine Christine said on...
08.05.08 at 09:01 AM |

Fanfic, blog book reviews… same issues for the most part, IMO. They are both “unprofessional.” Of course, unprofessional is not the same as bad, sloppy, or immature. It can be, but not always. Just like “professional” writing. I think we all know that just because something was published in a newpaper, magazine, or book, doesn’t automatically mean it is relevant, meaningful, or even well done.

Picture of Gail Gail said on...
08.05.08 at 09:10 AM |

This reminds me a review of a Julia Quinn book I read a couple years ago. I forget whether it was the Times or someone else, but review contained the phrase “It’s so nice to review a book people actually read” and was clearly written by a reviewer who was happy to talking about something different from her normal assignments, something that was just fun.

Picture of Linnet Linnet said on...
08.05.08 at 09:11 AM |

Dude!  Although I’ve never heard them described like that we obviously have the same math skills. Thanks for the laugh.

Picture of Lori Lori said on...
08.05.08 at 09:17 AM |

There are good & bad ways to do reviews, but the divide is not between professionals & bloggers.  The fact that you don’t use “I” doesn’t mean that you’re not just stating your opinion.  I would far rather read a review by a person who tells me up front what his/her prejudices are than one who tries to pretend to be simply stating objective fact.  There are too many reviewers who seem to simply be trying to prove how smart they are and what superior taste they have and that crap gets old fast, which is way I basically stopped reading them.

Picture of Kaycee Kaycee said on...
08.05.08 at 09:18 AM |

coming out of m a j o r lurkdom

Aren’t ALL (book) reviews, to some extent, self-indulgent?

spamblocker : problem74

“nuff said there!  lol ;-)

back to lurkdom :)

Picture of Ocy Ocy said on...
08.05.08 at 09:24 AM |

I’d rather read an opinionated review than one that pretends to keep clean of any bias ("pretends" being the operative word there).  Let’s face it, regardless of format, a book review is pretty much someone’s opinion, even if the word “I” is completely avoided.  The big difference?  The person whose review is opinionated has obviously read the book, and not just the back cover.

Picture of Emmy Emmy said on...
08.05.08 at 09:25 AM |

Book reviewing bloggers need to move away from opinion in favor of judgment. How does the book compare to—and fit in with—the author’s previous work? What’s the book’s place in the genre? The canon? Does the writer succeed in doing what he or she set out to do—meaning, is it the book they meant it to be?

Uh, isn’t a review a person’s opinion of a book they read?? Judgment, opinion...call it what you like, it’s still the same.

And how the frick would anyone know if someone wrote what they wanted to? Do they call the author and ask, ‘so, hows this book workin for ya’?

Srsly, I couldn’t care less about any of that. Did you read the book and did you like it? Why or why not? I don’t read just one review, nor does any one review influence my book buying. If a bunch of different people have the same gripe, I’ll think twice about a purchase. I’ve really enjoyed books that several people have hated, so it’s all taken with a grain of salt.

Picture of lijakaca lijakaca said on...
08.05.08 at 09:26 AM |

The type of review described in that article - where the book fits in ‘canon’ etc. sounds way more self-indulgent and, frankly, prone to pomposity and uselessness than an honest and frank blog review where the point is, “Is this book well-written and enjoyable? What are its outstanding good (or bad) points?”

And isn’t ‘canon’ just a euphemism for “Does this fit into the ranks of respected but not enjoyed dead white guys?”
Sorry, that word obviously ticked me off.

Picture of ev ev said on...
08.05.08 at 09:27 AM |

Does the writer succeed in doing what he or she set out to do—meaning, is it the book they meant it to be?
Um, just how the hell would they know?

Didn’t you know? All “legitimate” reviewers are issued crystal balls when they sign their contracts. THAT’S how they know what the writer set out to do and if they succeeded or not.

analysis82.

Picture of RfP RfP said on...
08.05.08 at 09:50 AM |

I agree with some of what she says about what makes a good review.  But she’s both ignorant and complacent if she seriously thinks those attributes can’t be found online.  For one thing, can she really be unaware that a number of reviewers for reputable print media *also* do online book reviews, and refugees from folding print reviews are increasingly to be found online?

I’m tempted to say it’s an issue of format. Blogs are, by nature, brief.

Wrong.  As many blog reviews are too long as too short.  Print reviews don’t have space for a lenghty description of the plot; a long print review often adds more about the author, the genre, or the writing, rather than more plot.  All reasons that I continue to read print reviews: I like context, and if I want to read the whole plot I’d rather read the book itself.

the writer implied that newspaper reviewers have this certain ESP skill and can know what an author intended their book to be.

To be fair, I appreciate it when reviews give a book and author that kind of consideration.  However, finding those qualities isn’t about the medium itself.  Newspaper reviewers aren’t inherently different, but the *good* ones have an editor who carefully matches up reviewer and book so the reviewer really should have some idea what that author’s all about.  A dilettante reviewer--like me--may pick up a book for sheer novelty value and then review it without a clue what the genre’s about.  E.g. I’ve discussed a few horror stories, but I’m not the ideal reviewer for them because it’s not a genre I read regularly.

The best print reviewers know very well that there’s value in gut reaction as well as critique.  I think book blogs are a space that allows all different styles of review *and* a wider variety of genres than conventional print.  It’s not that online reviews need to ape print reviews; I’m interested in seeing more really good reviews in print *and* online.

What’s the book’s place in the genre? The canon?

Discussing those issues is *not* the same as saying you can only read “canon”.  Again it’s the kind of context I appreciate in a review, and the best of the print reviews often have a good context for the book in question.

Turn it around:  Say that someone completely unversed in romance picked up Book 10 of Christine Feehan’s Carpathian series and wrote a review.  It might well read like “OMG, this is an Anne Rice rip-off AND the moron’s given it a happy ending!  I can’t believe some publisher doesn’t get that Rice has already written all there is to say about vampires, and falling in love with a vampire is just Not Done!”

That review would have the depth of a small puddle of puppy urine, because as *we* all know, there’s a vast amount of vampire fiction out there; Rice is by no means the Entire Canon; and vampire romance has its own rules.  A review that considers genre and canon can comment on where the Feehan books fit in all that vampire lit, and where they fit in romance, and whether they’re typical or innovative within those contexts, and whether the series still has any blood left in it by Book 10.  The review doesn’t *have* to do all that, but if the reviewer is totally unaware of the context, odds are the review won’t “get it”.

Picture of MoJo MoJo said on...
08.05.08 at 09:51 AM |

Newspaper reviews are exercises in provincial circle jerks at worst and masturbation at best.  If the effete of NY and LA ever stuck their heads out their windows, they’d know they weren’t the mostest smartestest pipples ever.

Oh, wait.  That’s why they don’t.  Never mind.

Picture of RfP RfP said on...
08.05.08 at 09:58 AM |

Newspaper reviews are exercises in provincial circle jerks at worst and masturbation at best.

Obviously I’m not going to agree.  If it’s not OK to say all blog reviews are bad, then ditto newspaper reviews.

Picture of MoJo MoJo said on...
08.05.08 at 10:02 AM |

Perhaps I should have put a “/sarcasm” on my post. I can see where it might seem I was entirely serious.

Picture of RfP RfP said on...
08.05.08 at 10:13 AM |

Oh, sorry.  I’m really tired of the blog-versus-print war, and my sense of humor is diminishing accordingly.

Picture of MoJo MoJo said on...
08.05.08 at 10:16 AM |

Entirely my fault.  My sense of humor tends to be parched.  ;)

Picture of Jody W. Jody W. said on...
08.05.08 at 10:22 AM |

I enjoy all sorts of reviews except for the seriously fusty ones that give me nightmares of my time in grad school.  But it’s worth noting that many of the questions the author of the original article suggested need to be answered in a “real” review are, in fact, matters of opinion.  (The evil “I think”, couched in neutered and neutral terms to sound like fact.) You can discuss whether Feehan’s books are typical or innovative compared to canon...in your opinion.  Yet other readers might have a different opinion and also be able to “prove” it using examples from canon and whatever lit crit tools and large, bombastic words they cared to implement.  I guess you can turn your “review” into straight up lit crit but that serves a different purpose.

I mean, dude!  Did it suck or what?  Should I spend my money on it or save it?

Picture of SB Sarah SB Sarah said on...
08.05.08 at 10:22 AM |

All you people behaving like grown ups are going to give the internet a shoddy reputation.

Picture of cecilia cecilia said on...
08.05.08 at 10:23 AM |

RfP - well said.  The one thing I’ll add is this:

I’m tempted to say it’s an issue of format. Blogs are, by nature, brief.

Wrong.  As many blog reviews are too long as too short.

Either way - too long or too short - it’s not the best writing, right? I’m ”tempted to say” it’s an issue of editorial control. A print review is going to be subject to what the needs of the medium are - how many column inches can be accomodated, the style used by the paper/magazine, etc., while a blog may or may not have an editor who oversees things. Personally, I think some kind of editor is likely to be a good thing. I don’t mind seeing a reviewer constrained from expressing his response to something in terms of “wtf” or ---tard, or whatever the current interweb slang is at the moment. Granted, you’re more likely to see that kind of inarticulate verbal vomit in a movie review than a book review, but even in the most dumbed-down newspaper, you’re going to see better writing than that. There are lots of blog reviews I read for enjoyment, but I don’t think the scorn for blog reviews has come from nothing or is totally unearned (present reviewers excepted, naturally).

Picture of katiebabs katiebabs said on...
08.05.08 at 10:28 AM |

Col. Linda “Bimbo” Blair reporting for duty! :P

Picture of RfP RfP said on...
08.05.08 at 10:32 AM |

The internut, it has the powers to lowers expectations.

Picture of KellyMaher KellyMaher said on...
08.05.08 at 10:45 AM |

Book reviews that are an attempt at academic literary criticism should in no way be the only content of a books section aimed at the general public.  The quote that Sarah pulled out put me in mind of the hardest class of reference question I get as a librarian: literary criticism.  I’m sorry, but as a general populace, “low brow” reader, I am not going to read any review that is attempting to conflate itself with something that appears in the Contemporary Literary Criticism (CLC) series and its ilk.  When I have my librarian hat on, yes, I’d like to have reviews for books from people who are reviewing a title with an eye to the type of collection the book would best fit in to when acquired (large public library, small public library, library with fans of the author, library with strong romance collection, etc.), but I can get those reviews from my professional journals or from other librarians/library workers who blog about books with the *acknowledged intended audience* being librarians with collection development duties.  As a reader, I enjoy reading reviews from fellow readers.  They know what will and won’t appeal to me as a reader.  I don’t need to read a treatise of the book when a review will do.

Picture of megalith megalith said on...
08.05.08 at 10:50 AM |

Well, I did have a well-considered response to Warren’s article (I swear), but it got eaten by the spamblocker. So, in short: Warren segues from talking about lit-fic review sites to blogspot sites, the vast majority of which review popular or commercial fiction rather than lit-fic, without making any distinctions between them. The audience is different, the “canon” is different, the intention of the reviewers is different, and the requirements of the review are thus very different. And she never comes close to the question posed by the title to her article: Will Blogs Save Books?

Now that would have made for an interesting article.

Picture of RfP RfP said on...
08.05.08 at 10:55 AM |

Cecilia, yes, I think having an editor can be a boon.  Not always--editors can limit and skew as well as improving--but when the system works, it can produce some really good stuff.

OTOH blogs show that edited print isn’t the only game in town.  I’d hate to see *all* professional/print reviews go away, but blogs do better than some papers’ review sections.

You can discuss whether Feehan’s books are typical or innovative compared to canon...in your opinion.  Yet other readers might have a different opinion and also be able to “prove” it using examples from canon and whatever lit crit tools and large, bombastic words they cared to implement.

Absolutely, and when a reviewer makes that effort it helps me figure out whether I’m likely to agree.  I don’t care whether it’s couched as “WTF” or bombast; either way, that discussion helps me understand where the reviewer’s coming from.

I want to know “Did it suck or what?” too, and either “sucks!” or “not canon!” can be an interesting review.  But my favorite style does some of each, because what sucks clots for someone else may be a bloody good read for me.

Picture of Teddypig Teddypig said on...
08.05.08 at 11:01 AM |

Avast yea scoundrel! I say we make him walk da plank!

Arggggh Arggggh!

Picture of Silver James Silver James said on...
08.05.08 at 11:34 AM |

Because I’m a self-avowed word nerd and often get wrapped around the axle on semantics, I keep dictionary.com open at a tab on my server. After reading through this, my first thought is that she’s equating a “book review” with a “book report”. Remember those from school? My sense of the connotation of “review” involved “opinion”.  Curious, I checked and came up with this:

—Synonyms 1. REVIEW, CRITICISM imply careful examination of something, formulation of a judgment, and statement of the judgment, usually in written form. A REVIEW is a survey over a whole subject or division of it, or esp. an article making a critical reconsideration and summary of something written: a review of the latest book on Chaucer. A CRITICISM is a judgment, usually in an article, either favorable or unfavorable or both: a criticism of a proposed plan. The words are interchanged when referring to motion pictures or theater, but REVIEW implies a somewhat less formal approach than CRITICISM: movie reviews; play reviews; book reviews. 8. reconsideration, reexamination. 16. criticize.

I’m not sure this makes any more sense but I’m tossing it out there.

Picture of kirsten saell kirsten saell said on...
08.05.08 at 11:35 AM |

And isn’t ‘canon’ just a euphemism for “Does this fit into the ranks of respected but not enjoyed dead white guys?”

Sorry, that word obviously ticked me off.

Yeah, me too.

[Ann] Rice is by no means the Entire Canon; and vampire romance has its own rules.  A review that considers genre and canon can comment on where the Feehan books fit in all that vampire lit, and where they fit in romance, and whether they’re typical or innovative within those contexts, and whether the series still has any blood left in it by Book 10. 

All right, when you put it that way, I’m not so annoyed, but I do think it’s a snooty word that “professional reviewers” would hesitate to apply to “genre crap” like Vampire Romance. Likewise, I don’t think it’s a word most genre writers would apply to their own work. I’ve seen the term “sub-genre” all over the place, but never “canon”, so it’s easy to see why some would think it only applies to dead white dude fiction.

the writer implied that newspaper reviewers have this certain ESP skill and can know what an author intended their book to be.

Um, I intended it to be a book, hopefully a good one that people will enjoy reading.

As a reader, I enjoy reading reviews from fellow readers.  They know what will and won’t appeal to me as a reader.  I don’t need to read a treatise of the book when a review will do.

The audience is different, the “canon” is different, the intention of the reviewers is different, and the requirements of the review are thus very different.

Well said. I want to read books I’ll enjoy, and I want the reviews I read to help me decide if a certain book will suit that purpose. While we’re talking about author intent, well, I’m pretty sure that a large segment of litfic is not written to be enjoyed. That doesn’t make it not worth reading, but it does necesitate a totally different type of review if that review is going to be at all useful.

Picture of Carrie Lofty Carrie Lofty said on...
08.05.08 at 11:38 AM |

Sarah, I’m diggin’ your attitude today. 100% full of McRanty goodness. Granted, you’d probably be able to cool it if people weren’t dicks…

Picture of Chrissy Chrissy said on...
08.05.08 at 11:41 AM |

Is there anything more red-flag-worthy of dilettante behavior than the phrase “self indulgent?”

And, um… Blogspot is a variety?

K.

Picture of Susan Susan said on...
08.05.08 at 11:55 AM |

As a book publisher I am grateful to the many, many bloggers who are writing about books and making it easier for us book publisher types to reach the people who want to read our books. I work at a non profit press and bloggers have enabled us to find audiences who want our books that we couldn’t before afford to reach.

As a reader, I’m grateful to the bloggers who have helped connect me to a community of fellow readers and the books I want to read.

I wish more publications would review romances in the way that Eloisa James’ is over at the B&N;Review. She’s offering some cultural context and thoughtful (if brief) analysis of the books. That level of sophistication with regards to romances are only found in a few places, as far as I’m aware (including here at the Bitchery).

Picture of veinglory veinglory said on...
08.05.08 at 12:08 PM |

Thank you, SB.  Exactly. It seems to me the print reviewers need to pull their heads out of their arses and get some advertising dollars, from, oh, perhaps the people that read most of the books (rather than the one who feel most clever doing it).

Picture of willa willa said on...
08.05.08 at 12:09 PM |

Does the writer succeed in doing what he or she set out to do—meaning, is it the book they meant it to be?

I actually think this is not as snotty as it can sound, like RfP said above. If a book is supposed to be a hilarious comedy and it’s clearly stale, unfunny recycled awfulness that most people would agree really sucks, then people can definitely tell whether or not the writer succeded in doing in what he or she set out to do. Likewise a romance--how many romance novels have failed as romance novels, with unconvincing romances or characters who clearly were just dumped together for no good reason? We know what the author set out to do, and we know when she failed at that.

Likewise the canon thing--that’s helpful too, and most people do that automatically anyway, I bet: “This book is just a JR Ward knockoff!” or “I can’t take one more dumbed-down Romantic Suspence novel!” or whatever.

I still don’t agree with the article, though. Blog reviews are awesome, and do a great job reviewing books. Often better than the NY Times do.

Picture of Alpha Lyra Alpha Lyra said on...
08.05.08 at 12:17 PM |

Leaving aside the issue of print vs. online, I actually prefer the “self-indulgent” type of review that’s written in first person and doesn’t try to hide the fact that it’s a personal opinion. From that sort of candid review, in which the reviewer’s biases are on display, I get a much better idea of whether I will enjoy the book than I do from the “professional” style review that pretends to be unbiased. I think it’s impossible to be unbiased when reviewing books.

Picture of Nadia Nadia said on...
08.05.08 at 12:18 PM |

I live in a major metropolitan area.  We are served by one mainstream newspaper that seems to shrink daily.  We are lucky to have a Books page at all on Sunday, and I can’t remember the last time I read a review on a romance.  Usually, the two books they review are non-fic or “literary” works, and the occasional genre work tends to be mystery.  So if I’m not reading a blogged review or comments on Amazon, I’ve got nothing.  They can bitch all they want about blog reviews, but it’s not like anyone is giving us a “superior” alternative, now, are they?  And I absolutely hate it when a reviewer, in either books or movies, takes on a genre or style that they obviously have no knowledge or use for.  So personally, I’d rather read my reviews from people who appreciate the art form for what it is, not hold it in contempt for what it isn’t.

Picture of RfP RfP said on...
08.05.08 at 12:19 PM |

I do think [canon]’s a snooty word that “professional reviewers” would hesitate to apply to “genre crap” like Vampire Romance. Likewise, I don’t think it’s a word most genre writers would apply to their own work.

That may be true, but I don’t see a reason not to discuss romance in the same terms as other genres (sci fi can talk about canon these days).  These fundamental differences in how criticism happens are part of why I’d like to see newspaper reviews incorporate romance on the same footing as other genres, as well as see a variety of types of online writing about romance.  It ain’t happening, but that’s what I’d like.

I’ve seen the term “sub-genre” all over the place, but never “canon”, so it’s easy to see why some would think it only applies to dead white dude fiction

That makes sense for a world where mainly dead white dude fiction is taught and reviewed.  However, romance courses are happening here and there, and “canon” comes up fairly regularly on Teach Me Tonight:
- Musings on Reviews and Establishing a Canon of Romance
- Famous Literary Predecessors of the Modern Romance Novel
- and more

Picture of Elizabeth Wadsworth Elizabeth Wadsworth said on...
08.05.08 at 12:26 PM |

Ultimately, any review of ANYTHING is someone’s opinion, regardless of length or format.  If it’s intelligent, well thought-out and useful to me as a reader/viewer, I could care less whether it appears in a newspaper or on my computer screen.  (For instance, the reviews on this site have got me back into reading romances after something like 25 years, and I’ve discovered several excellent examples as a result.)

What I DO have a problem with (and this is primarily in the world of film, not books) is that anyone with a computer and a bit of bandwidth can now call him/herself a critic, regardless of their ability to write or their knowledge of the subject.  More often than not, I find that these “critics’” cannot come up with anything more substantive than “It’s awesome” or “It sucks.” And they’re supposed to be arbiters of taste for the rest of us?  I think of them as the “Awesome/Sucks Squad” —ASS for short.

stand49—OK, I’ll stand down from my soapbox now.

Picture of Keora Keora said on...
08.05.08 at 12:46 PM |

When it comes to fiction, I’m more interested in whether a book is entertaining than whether it’s “important to the genre,” or whether it fits in well with the author’s body of work.

Most of my favorite novels would probably get canned by most professional critics, while some critically-acclaimed novels (which I’m sure were groundbreaking in their genres) that I’ve read have been incredibly boring to me. If the reviewer’s priorities don’t match mine, then the review is worthless to me.

That’s why I like blog reviews. Maybe they’re subjective and “self-indulgent,” but if I know more about what the reviewer likes and looks for in a novel, I can decide whether their taste is likely to match mine.

Additionally, I seem to notice that most professional newspaper critics look down on any book or movie that’s not completely serious and depressing. It’s as though they think it can’t be art if it has a happy ending.

Picture of Laurie Laurie said on...
08.05.08 at 01:01 PM |

I’ve been talking about books and tv and movies in my own blog since 2002, and I admit sometimes it does boil down to “it sucks” or it’s awesome” (once in a while it can be both,) but I have never considered myself an arbiter of taste for anyone else. I didn’t set up shop gunning for newspaper critics across the land or anything, for crying out loud. I just wanted to share the love or the pain with other people. If someone else’s tastes mesh well with mine, and if as a result that person starts to pay more attention to what I had to say about books than newspaper critics, that doesn’t seem like a crime to me. That seems like common sense.

Picture of Susan Susan said on...
08.05.08 at 01:16 PM |

“It’s as though they think it can’t be art if it has a happy ending.”

Seems to me the power of a story lies in the struggle or how the characters deal with the obstacles they face. Whether it ends happily or sadly, it shouldn’t negate the worthiness of the struggle. Sort of like that notion, it’s not whether you win or loose, it’s how you play the game.

I disagree with you, Keora, that professional book critics look down on any movie that’s not serious--A.O. Scott in the NY Times has written some highly complimentary reviews of happy movies, for instance. I do however beleive that romance as a genre is not considered worthy of review by many in the book review community. And that is what frustrates me, as a reader.

Many romance novels deal with death, loss, love, coming of age, family trauma, and many other weighty issues that are discussed in book reviews. I’d like to see more of the books in this genre entering into those discussions.

Picture of Lovecow2000 Lovecow2000 said on...
08.05.08 at 01:45 PM |

I went and read this blog post and reacted strongly to much of what others have pointed out above.  However, as a recovering doctoral student in comparative literature I would like to add my 2 cents here as well. 

Warren says:

I’d also advise that book reviewing bloggers jettison the use of personal pronouns

Okay… so who reads the book?  A disembodied Emersonian eyeball?  As a grad student I had to do time teaching freshman composition.  One of the first habits I struggled to rid my students of was their god-awful use of impersonal pronouns to add gravitas to their prose.  Of course, using the first person when describing the action of a book would be entirely self-indulgent and silly, but when actually talking about what you think of the book, wouldn’t it be somewhat necessary?

Yes, there are ways to review a work of literature without obviously bringing oneself into the process, but blogs as a genre themselves don’t lend to this.  A person wanting to read about what others think of a book usually expect there to be an opinion present somewhere in the review.  When one reads a blog, one expects and looks for a more personal tone (well, at least I DO)

Can someone also explain to me what a spamword is?  I see it all over the comments and want one too.  : )

Picture of CourtneyLee CourtneyLee said on...
08.05.08 at 01:56 PM |

I have read many great blog reviews and tend to avoid print reviews for many of the reasons already stated. Truly, I would rather read an opinion from someone who shares not only my taste in books but in how I approach them. For example, for books I really anticipate eagerly, I don’t want plot spoilers and I find a lot of lengthly reviews include too much plot description for me. I love not knowing what’s on even the beginning pages because I emotionally engage and “professional” reviews from newspapers (in my limited experience) tend to exclude the reviewer’s personal emotional reaction to the book.

Some of the most useful reviews to me have been ones from readers who aren’t even reviewers, like when Nalini Singh does a contest on her blog and sends out 15 or so ARCs of her upcoming book to a sampling of her actual readers along with a request to talk them up around the internet. Sure, a lot of them are glorified fangirl squeeing that have little in the way of analysis, but she usually gets a few that are smart, well thought out, and *gasp* enjoyable to read for their glorious lack of any lit crit vibe.

Picture of kirsten saell kirsten saell said on...
08.05.08 at 02:06 PM |

spam word is the “ready28” or whatever that you have to type into the box to prove you’re a real person.

Picture of LDH LDH said on...
08.05.08 at 02:17 PM |

I think that there needs to be a second “Smart Bitches” book titled “Smart Bitching: How to Rant Like the Smart, Classy Bitch That You Are”.

This rant makes me so happy that I want to bring your attention to one little thing:

My math skills bring all the boys to the yard, but mostly because they doesn’t make any sense on this planet and thus are entertaining.

Picture of Lady T Lady T said on...
08.05.08 at 02:48 PM |

I just posted a book review on my blog today and *gasp* I used a couple of personal pronouns-oh,no! Whatever shall I do about such a violation of Reviewer Etiquette? Perhaps I can make amends by copying out pages from Stunk & White on a blackboard in triplicate:)

My blog is also one of those “blogspot” types that offended Warren so much and it was particularly unfair of her to paint a picture of all blogspot users with the same brush. She might not want to hear how someone got a hold of the book in question or other personal details but other folks might find that just as interesting as the book being reviewed and,depending on the blogger,it may be that personal connection that gets that blog the readership it does.

From my experience in checking out lit blogs,a good number of them are just out there to spread the good word about they books she/he likes and not out to compete with the print media. The lit websites Warren mentioned are not,IMO,out to take down the press but simply provide an alternate source of info about the book world. I’m sorry that newspapers are cutting down on their book coverage but maybe(as many other of the posters here have pointed out),they need to stop poking at the mote in blogger’s eyes and do something about the beam in their own.

Picture of Virginia Shultz-Charette Virginia Shultz-Charette said on...
08.05.08 at 03:15 PM |

The only review without bias, is the review where the reviewer never read the book.

Picture of azteclady azteclady said on...
08.05.08 at 03:17 PM |

Isn’t ignorance also a bias?

Picture of MoJo MoJo said on...
08.05.08 at 03:36 PM |

a good number of them [lit blogs] are just out there to spread the good word about they books she/he likes and not out to compete with the print media

It occurs to me that this is perhaps why they succeed in finding an audience and the newspapers’ didn’t.

Picture of Gina Gina said on...
08.05.08 at 04:02 PM |

Huh. I’ve always taken what the author wrote as what the author intended for me to read. Quite frankly, I would find it completely useless to read a review telling me what the author intended. I can’t get inside the author’s head, I can only know the story as it’s written.

Whether it’s the book the blogger wanted it to be is of much less importance to me, frankly.

They published a book so it can be read. Once it’s in the reader’s hands, the only thing of importance is the reader’s reaction to it and understanding of it.

Picture of Lovecow2000 Lovecow2000 said on...
08.05.08 at 04:20 PM |

Once it’s in the reader’s hands, the only thing of importance is the reader’s reaction to it and understanding of it.

Amen to that… Books only work if they have readers.  Has anyone read Jasper Fforde’s work?  He makes a lot of jokes about book technology and the reader interface.  : )

Picture of Ms Manna Ms Manna said on...
08.05.08 at 04:41 PM |

I read reviews for exactly two reasons:

1. Is the review entertainingly written?

2. Does it give me a clear sense of whether or not I will enjoy the book/film/game/whatever being reviewed?

How the reviewer fulfils those two points, and how many personal pronouns they throw in there, I don’t really care.  But they’re pretty unlikely to achieve either by being pretentious asshats.

Picture of Melissandre Melissandre said on...
08.05.08 at 07:33 PM |

Though my city newspaper occasionally features lightning-fast genre fiction reviews, I have bought and read far, far more books as a result of reading this blog.  Isn’t that the point of book reviews?  To sell consumers on the books they should read, and turn them off the ones they should avoid? 

More than any other genre, I think that romance novels need reviewing.  The industry is so massive, and fractured into so many sub-genres; it can be difficult to find the kind of book you want to read (and a quality book at that).  Also, let’s be honest: we all judge books by their covers.  If I base my judgment on a stupid looking cover, I might decide to pass on a book that was perfect for me (and you know we all do it).  I was turned off by Kresley Cole, thinking she was just another paranormal poser with cover issues, until the Smart Bitches here clued me in to her awesomeness.

I also find the use of first person pronouns in the reviews to be very helpful.  Some books just don’t click for a person, and the Smart Bitches acknowledge this with statements like, “I think this...,” or, “For me, this didn’t work...” They don’t claim to speak for all of Romancelandia, just for themselves.  And if a few other smart bitches decide that they agree, more power to them.

Picture of megalith megalith said on...
08.05.08 at 10:35 PM |

I actually like the personal context you get in blog reviews:

I hated this book because it reminded me of my mother-in-law’s poodle.
I loved this book because the hero has a huge tractor.
Robot erotica rocks, because people scare me.
I never read SF, but my Uncle Lenny insisted I read this.

Bloggers can establish their bona fides with readers in a way no print reviewer would dream of doing. The more we know about the reviewer, the better we’re able to calibrate the value of the review.

Picture of Robin Robin said on...
08.05.08 at 11:36 PM |

Who the hell thinks that blogs can or should replace mainstream media sources anyway?  I’ve always thought of blogs as the Greek chorus of public media, and IMO both are critical to fulfilling the democratic mandate of a free press.  Checks and balances, point and counterpoint, however you want to see it, I think it’s all about symbiosis, not absorption (or cannibalistic digestion, depending on your mixed metaphor of choice).

Picture of Papercut Papercut said on...
08.06.08 at 06:55 AM |

Why does she thinks it matters? It doesn’t matter - whether it’s print or blog, or whatever (and incidentally, what newspapers, and newspaper reviewiers, I read is all online) what I ask for is that the reviewer share my taste. And, of course, write a good review. It’s better if they’re funny and write well but when it comes down to it I want to know that that book, movie, CD or whatever I’m going to spend my valuable free time on is worth it.

Picture of Stephanie Stephanie said on...
08.06.08 at 10:07 AM |

OK, speaking as both a member of the Commentariat and the owner of a personal blog (not on blogspot, thank you very much) wherein I review a type of book that is quite often ignored by the New York Times (primarily YA f/sf, although I’ll also read adult f/sf) . . . well, DUH, it’s MY OPINION. However, what makes my opinion on YA f/sf any worse than the head reviewer for the NYT? I bet I’ve read a LOT more YA f/sf than s/he has, and therefore I’d be slightly more qualified to have an opinion on . . . what was it?

How does the book compare to—and fit in with—the author’s previous work? What’s the book’s place in the genre? The canon? Does the writer succeed in doing what he or she set out to do—meaning, is it the book they meant it to be?

Oh yeah, that.

(What makes them think that we don’t consider those things? F/SF has at least as long a ‘canon’ as ‘lit fic’—hi, I can has Midsummer Night’s Dream?)

Picture of HaloKun HaloKun said on...
08.06.08 at 11:09 AM |

The people who read book reviews (and blog reviews) are bookbuyers.  People in the industry who want to know what books to stock and keep up with “what’s popular”.  The good thing (I think) about the Romance ‘genre’ (I hate that word, genre) is that bookbuyers don’t need reviews to buy Romance novels.  Because they will always, always, always, sell no matter what.  At least that’s my take on it.  I could be completely wrong..

And the best review of a Romance novel is the one the lady behind the counter at your local bookstore gives, because she’s read every damn one of ‘em..  just like you!

Picture of amy lane amy lane said on...
08.08.08 at 08:00 AM |

“And if I ever cared to learn how to play, I would have been a true proficient.” (roughly) Lady Catherine de Bourgh, Pride & Prejudice.

Misogynistic wankers-- if they had given 25% of the literature published today a second glance, maybe the rest of the world wouldn’t have felt the need to step in.

Picture of ashley ashley said on...
08.14.08 at 04:47 PM |

hello world i do agreee bitches need 2 stopp hatingggggg

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